an Arab with Non-Arab boyfriend?

[bonbonboi]

Let's hear about your experiences as an Arab guy with a non-Arab boyfriend :)

[divalicious]

Dont have one:eek:

[gsdfargo]

Let's hear about your experiences as an Arab guy with a non-Arab boyfriend :)

Can I answer this as a non - Arab who has had an Arab boyfriend???

[gizem_]

off couser with arab boy

[bonbonboi]

Strange, there is no that replies here, seems Arabs do not go for boy friends, any way...
Arabs just into Fuck and Forget.

[frenchiepf]

Strange, there is no that replies here, seems Arabs do not go for boy friends, any way...
Arabs just into Fuck and Forget.
Why do you think that is bonbonboi? What about you, you go for boy friends? Are you able to commit to a relationship?
;)

[bistallion]

I am interested to hear about experiences of non-arab western men with arabs from arab countries. The background of my question: As a european tourist who visits an arab country I am automatically seen as someone rich and someone who could open the door to europe. So I feel very unsecure if someone of such a country tells me he likes me. I do not want to be too naive and at the same time I do not want to be too suspicious. Any advice? Any experience, may it bad or good?

[gsdfargo]

I am interested to hear about experiences of non-arab western men with arabs from arab countries. The background of my question: As a european tourist who visits an arab country I am automatically seen as someone rich and someone who could open the door to europe. So I feel very unsecure if someone of such a country tells me he likes me. I do not want to be too naive and at the same time I do not want to be too suspicious. Any advice? Any experience, may it bad or good?

I think the foundation of your question provides the advice you are looking for...that is, do not be too naive and at the same time do not be too suspicious. Beyond that, enjoy yourself and your time with these men. Alot of what you are wondering depends a great deal on which country you might be visiting and of course the age of the man you meet. For example a 20 year old guy from Iran "might" be more interested in you because of the possibilities of emmigration while a guy in Jordan with a good job "might" be interested in you for you. These are ONLY hypotheticals, NOT in any way concrete facts. Trust your instinct that is the best advice. When I was visiting Eastern European countries in the mid 80's I experienced this as well. But knowing your limits, the realities of your country's immigration laws etc etc can help you to sit back and just enjoy the man you meet. Having said all this...it is possible, just possible that you might even meet the man of your dreams and therefore all concerns "go out the window" !!! So sit back, relax and enjoy your time...

[bistallion]

Thanks for your answer! I understand very well what you are telling me. I took the hard facts already in consideration and there are pros and contras. I think i must learn more about arab mentality with regard to friendliness and affection to be able to judge people more properly. So I am always happy if users share their experiences.

[Murat]

You caucasians can be an arrogant lot. the whole tone of ypour posts is that arabs should be thankfull that you go to their countries looking for a relationship on YOUR terms. Visit ANY poor country as a gay man and you will meet men who use sex as a vehicle for something else, money, a passport to a betterr life, whatever. It is not unique to arabs. If you don't respect their culture, their history their comminties (however imperfect) why should they see you no more than a casual sexual encounter. 95% percent of the gay world anyewhere is into just fuck and forget. Why should arabs whatever country the live in be any different. You are not doing them a favour by having sex with them. Ask yourself how much do you really know about their cultural background. Why should they not prefer the company of other arabs. I am a non arab with an arab boyfriend. Most of the arabs I have met gay or straight have been fine. I respect them. Do you? or do you just see a hairy dark skin guy who hopefully is a good fuck? stop looking at arabs in western christian terms. learn about them and they in term will respect you. no relationship anywhere on this planet, gay or straighyt, survives on sex alone.

[bistallion]

Sorry, Murat... do you mean me with your reproach? If YES: I do not know by what I did confirm your image of arrogant caucasians.
By the way, I agree largely with your comment!

[ce83]

I am non-arab, and I live with an arab from morocco, but he has a gf, and supposedly is "straight" but we carry a close relationship as "brothers", I would LOVE for him to be my BOYFRIEND though. How could I make that happen? I wish I could have someone tell me. If only it was that easy! I am deeply in love with this boy. He is the perfect type of MAN for me. Does anyone have any suggestions? He has to be mine! Somehow....

[Murat]

Sorry Bistallion if I maligned you. I just get fed up with reading posts from guys who see arabs as no more than sex objects and then complain that they want paying for it. Have a good Christmas and 2009. ce83 i sympathise. The fact that he is Moroccan is not the problem. It is a case where your love is not reciprocated to the same extent as your own. Having been the same situation myself I know how you feel. You cannot force him to love you, nor should you seek to posses him. How he feels about you is something only he knows. Put to many demands on him and you may loose him completely. You have to decide whether what you have now is worth the unhappiness that come with the pleasure in the relationship. Think carefully, sometimes we only realise the value of what we have when we have lost it. I hope 2009 brings you the happiness you desire

[bistallion]

I agree with Murat, that if you see the other only as sex object then you can not expect to get everything free. A human being is always somebody with body and soul. If you are only interested in a big dick or a hairy body then you look to real human beings like onto the actors of a porn movie. But porn movies are not the real life.
The bigger problems arise if feelings come into the play. One of two loves the other or could at least imagine that love could grow. The other one talks also about love. But the "rich" westerner can not be sure if the other one just uses him in his struggle to leave his misery. And the "poor" can not be sure if the other just uses him for nothing but sex fun on a holiday trip.
On this level I see BOTH persons as potentially destructive although I find it perhaps more difficult to blame the poor one, who struggles for a better life.
But who can really say which side is more destructive???? You can read in the internet many many reports from european women (and also a few about european men) whose souls got deeply hurt if not to say destroyed by very cold-acting men in poor countries who misused the women to get to europe! These men used all kind of tricks to make the women believe that they love them. It is said that in some places in southern turkey men teach and learn these tricks as if it would be a kind of business or management class.
This misuse is of course not only practised by turks or arabs but can occur everywhere in poor countries. It is only more widespread in some countries because of more tourists there.
What I want to say is: No side is per se "innocent"!
But what we could perhaps do here in this forum is to learn from the other about his experiences and perhaps also warning signals. To READ the signals properly and to prevent misunderstandings it is necessary to learn more about the mentality of other cultures. I know that there are two views which both are for me only half-truth:
1) There is nothing like a "mentality" of for example arabs. Behaviour is only influenced by the circumstances and the individual character.
2) There is absolutely such a thing like a people's character! If you know one arab you know all!
The supporters of position 1) call position 2) often racist. The supporters of position 2) call position 1) often naive.
I myself support more position 1), but I nevertheless believe that there are or could be a few characteristics in a people which are typical for it. For me it has of course nothing to with genes but with the impact of a special culture.
For example as a european you can experience that arabs (but not only arabs) have a different attitude to time.
My posting is already much too long so I shall talk about my experiences with arabic "mentality" (?) next time. I wish to all of you a nice Christmas time!

Stefan

[maelle]

Let's hear about your experiences as an Arab guy with a non-Arab boyfriend :)
sorry do you speak french please

[djgaybob]

I've approached some Arab men and some Indian men who I know for sure are Gay, but I find many are very secretive about thier lifestyle.

[SwimBod]

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[arabswed]

I have been living in SWEDEN with may swedish poyfriend .you kno its me the arab one who is rich my pfriend is unemployed and me i am a doctor !
arab people are honest and if they love they do it for only love instead you european people are fucknig with every one

[nakhoncon]

i never have arab boyfriend but close friend. That why i wish too but it's ok then

[arabswed]

[QUOTE=arabswed;8899]I have been living in SWEDEN with may swedish poyfriend .and its me whow arab one who that is rich my poyfrdend is unemployed.
Arabs are honest and if they love they do it for only love i.European people are fucknig with every one just for the cock size .

[shadya]

Right on-as a Caucasian who has had arab "boy friends", if you understand them they become real friends not just fuck buddies

[leo1234]

As for me, I'm an Arab. I have been in a relationship with a non-Arab for 4 years and it's been wonderful.

[bistallion]

And there had not been any little "problems"? No kind of misunderstandings between arab and non-arab partners? Everything only has been wonderful? Yeahhhh, life is one big fairytale! Must I believe that?
I would like to learn more about arab mentality! And I am open to learn. The only thing I heart here was: Arabs are true in their love and western people are only interested in big dicks. Is it so simple????

[leo1234]

You're question was very ambiguous to start with and I wasn't sure what exactly you would like to learn.
Of course, every relationship has ups and downs! What's your point?
There's no such thing as Arab mentality, people have individual characters and beliefs despite cultural trends. Do you have any specific questions?

[arabswed]

i have question to you can you tell mig why så much divorse betwwen western couples?how can you talk ab arab as a one nation we are around 20 country french are not as german ,english are not as norwegian why should be the same

[bistallion]

Hi Leo1234,

Do you really think there are no different mentalities???
My opinion is that different people have much more in common than that there are important differences. So you find in every people intelligent and stupid persons, lazy and busy persons, correct people and criminals etc etc. I am absolutely against rascist theories about superior and inferior people!
BUT there are of course "smaller" differences which have to do with different kind of societies, culture, education, habits, historical background etc. For example to call the ordinary arab more hospitable than the ordinary european means to make a difference. And to call the ordinary european to be more on time than the ordinary arab means also to make a difference. Another example: There are many people where the kids show much more respect to elder people than in europe. And european people (not all of course!) often show more care about the environment. But in all these cases it has nothing to do with races or genes and so these are no rascistic remarks at all.
For me the rascists are as wrong as people who want to tell you that all people are in all aspects the same!

So my question is: What are typical kinds of "misunderstanding" between an arab and an westener guy who love each other? What differences in mentality make their relationship sometimes difficult?

[chadi1986]

I am non-arab, and I live with an arab from morocco, but he has a gf, and supposedly is "straight" but we carry a close relationship as "brothers", I would LOVE for him to be my BOYFRIEND though. How could I make that happen? I wish I could have someone tell me. If only it was that easy! I am deeply in love with this boy. He is the perfect type of MAN for me. Does anyone have any suggestions? He has to be mine! Somehow....

Hi, I'm in the exact same position as you. my boyfriend, who is kurdish and from syria, just ignores the fact that we are boyfriends since two years. He always tells me that he loves me as his brother and that we will be best friends forever...

But in the same time he plans to marry a relative from syria and even wants me to marry, too.

In his eyes a wife is only there for procreation and for cleaning your house. You don't have to keep up a emotional relationship with her. It's horrible.

I got to know him in syria, but he is living with me (we are both students) in Germany since more than a year. All my german/european friends know whats going on. But he still thinks nobody can see we are lovers and that he can keep up this scheming.

He fears his family, althogh it's thousands of miles away and panics everytime he hears that someone i know could be kurdish ( and would tell his story to everyone).

[oneworld]

Hi Chadi, I am very interested in arab culture and the way many arabs see life. And also how arabs define "friendship", "relationship" and "love". If I say "arabs" I know of course that there are many kinds and types of arab people. I was already in Syria and met people like your friend. What also interests me: How comes that you are more liberal than your friend with regard to love and sex between men? Just your cultural background? Or more your individual way of looking without fear onto your person and your needs?

[dhas222]

i dont find any no Arab in Riyadh

[hetfi]

i dont find any no Arab in Riyadh

I don't find any arabs in my country
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Great post. Almost on-topic as well, lol

[Eros101]

You caucasians can be an arrogant lot. the whole tone of ypour posts is that arabs should be thankfull that you go to their countries looking for a relationship on YOUR terms. Visit ANY poor country as a gay man and you will meet men who use sex as a vehicle for something else, money, a passport to a betterr life, whatever. It is not unique to arabs. If you don't respect their culture, their history their comminties (however imperfect) why should they see you no more than a casual sexual encounter. 95% percent of the gay world anyewhere is into just fuck and forget. Why should arabs whatever country the live in be any different. You are not doing them a favour by having sex with them. Ask yourself how much do you really know about their cultural background. Why should they not prefer the company of other arabs. I am a non arab with an arab boyfriend. Most of the arabs I have met gay or straight have been fine. I respect them. Do you? or do you just see a hairy dark skin guy who hopefully is a good fuck? stop looking at arabs in western christian terms. learn about them and they in term will respect you. no relationship anywhere on this planet, gay or straighyt, survives on sex alone.

I have strived to be tolerant and understanding of my boyfriend who is an arab, but I have come to realise, I'm being played and used. I'm not saying thats for all arabs- but whenever I repremand him, his arab friends side with him and I get made out as being clingy... All I ask is that he bases the relationship on values higher than "stress release sex" and that he does not sleep with anyone else(morally or physically) From where I stand the arabic attraction is fading as I see all the things he does wrong... and for what? Pride? Honour? Tadition..? So maybe it's not just poor arabs.

[Murat]

what you say about your relatiobship has liitle to do with him being an arab. You describe a problem many gays have the world over when they enter into a a relaionship. One wants more from the other than the other is prepared or can give. Show me any relationship where the partner's friends do not side with their friend? It is for you to decide whether what they say about your relationship is true but to be honest you can hardly call them free and objective in their view of your relationship. I am not even sure that it is any of their business. You decide and if you are not getting what you want out of the relationship make a decision and whatever pain it gives you will pass and yoiu will move on. Neither I or anyone else has the right to tell you whether to stay in the relationship. Only you can choose. Whatever you decide good luck!

[dalmatino]

i am a non-arab who had arab boyfriend, several adventures with arabs, worked in arab countries and travelled a lot throughout arab world. my conclusion is that arab culture is wonderful, the men are very hot and physically attractive to me, but mentally and emotionally they are totally diferent from non-arab cultures and especially from european cultures. if you are a non-arab reading this, i don't recommend any serious comitment with an arab man, but only hot sex. good luck!

[bistallion]

Hi dalmatino, could you explain a bit more about the mental and emotional differences that you experienced???? Would be very interesting!

[dalmatino]

Hi bistallion, under mental differences i meant different perceptions of values and of what is right and what is wrong. concerning emotional differences, i have witnessed quite changing moods as well as strong possesiveness and high level of infidelity at the same time (which makes sense to them). i assume that these differences are deeply shaped by different cultural factors. by the way, i enjoy cultural diversity and have always had cross-cultural relations, but no more with arabs... as i recommended, only for sex... but again, you can always try as there are exceptions of course.

[Eros101]

Murat, my understanding now is that like what Dalmatino has described as mental and emotional differences.. My BF clearly doesnt see the things he does as wrong or hurtfull, but they are from where I stand- I'm trying to become more tolerant of this and I'm kind of supressing my morals until there is less friction between us. I know he has been bad for me and may still be, but I love him too much to let go..

[dalmatino]

Hi Eros! I agree with you fully. I was in the same situation... And even today after 2 years that I broke up with my Arab boyfriend, I still feel both love for him, but also strong bitter feelings and hate as well... he still doesn't understand that it was wrong that he cheated on me, that it was wrong that he didn't support me when i went out of the closet, that it was wrong that he ignored me when my mother had heart attacks and i was waiting in front of hospital alone, and so on... unfortunately, i experienced similar things in my second relationship with an arab boyfriend and have heard of dozens of stories like mine. my recommendation to you is to bo really careful!!!

[Eros101]

Dalmatino, It's nice to know there are other people with similar experiences, and that its not just me being paranoid.. I was and am kind of still under the impression he is cheating or has cheated before.. I feel like just going to sleep forever when I start worrying about where he is and what hes doing..

[dalmatino]

Hi Eros! If you have msn and would like to chat, feel free to add me: odysseyus2001[AT]hotmail.com

[Eros101]

No offence but the content of this site just fuels and perpetuates my views on arab gays and the associated infidelity, the banner advertisements and income sources prove my point.

[Eros101]

Dalmatino, I'd love to chat =] Ive added you.

[Murat]

Sometimes I truly dispair. A number of the most recent postings reflect how little things hasve changed. Implicit in them is the notion that the western European moral code is superior and of course it is inconceivable that any Arab could match it. Therfore the best thing is just meet tthem for sex. You claim to seek to "understand" the Arab but all we have is you, the writer, playing the victim, nothing at all about your partner and his problems outside the relationship, or how he feels about the relationship. Have any of you ever thought about your ingrained feeling of superiority to Arabs wherever they are from. No let us place them all in a single catregory whether they be Lebanese, Algerian etc. and look upon them as no more than a good fuck when you get the chance. No Arab would ever be so disrespectful of another's country of origin. I do not condone dishonesty in any relationship. But if your partner is behaving like a shit it is because he is a shit. it has nothing to do with him being Arab or Christian or Jewish or whatever.A few hours ago I sat and listened to a guy bemoanig the infideilities of his partner almost identical to those in the above postings. Neither he or ihs partner are Arabs. They are in fact Spanish. No relationship can survive without mutual respect. This is not the same as saying I wil respect you only if we agree to mutual repsect on MY terms. Stop wallowing in self pity and ask yourself honestly whether given your make up there was any possibilty of the relationship lasting. To suggust that, based on your experiences no one should ever seek to enter into a relationship with an Arab,whatever country he comes from, is both arrogant and racist. There are posters who genuinely love and admire the arabs they meet in the countries they visit and depsiter coming across a few unpleasant individuals go back again and again because they love both the people and the country. Hopefully they will rpeosnd and give you a few ideas to think about that go beyond "Don't go anywhere near any arabs (except for quick sex) because my partner fucked up our reltionship."

[dalmatino]

Hello Murat! Good to know your opinion. And for the record, I am originally from Eastern Europe, my father is Croatian Christian and my mother is Bosnian Muslim. I lived in the years of war, but now i live in the years of peace and in Spain. Everybody has right to judge somebody and something based on his / her own set of values and I tollerate this as I tollerate your opinion too. But since I am from a mixed Christian - Muslim parents, I think I have good enough credentials to judge things more correctly than most people are able to do. And again, this is MY OWN set of beliefs and you can agree with it or not. Bye bye!

[Murat]

Of course you have a right to your own opinion. It is for others to judge whether you are right or wrong but to say "I don't recommend a serious relationship with an arab just hot sex" really is quite insulting and demeaning Which Arabs are you talking about, those from Tunisia, or berhaps Libya, assuming you have met a Libyan. Fine keep your prejudices, close your mind, so you have heard dozens of stories about Arabs, what have they done? confirmed your own prejudices after one failed relationship.This is your mantra. An arab is goood for hot sex and nothing else because my relationship with my boyfriend failed (not my fault) and others, so I have been told, have had similar problems. How would you react if a Moroccan described all europeans gays going ot Morocco as peadophiles becasue there are number who go there for sex with young boys. relationships the world over fail becasue of the behaviour of one half of the relationship does that mean never into one because you might get hurt again. In every race there are good people and bad. If you want to judge the good by the standards of the bad and close your mind to a contrary opinion so be it. I Will not whatever their race or religion. I truly beleive that we arr all capable of finding a person who will return the love you give. The trick is to recognise it when you find it

[Eros101]

Murat, I dont mean to seem arogant or self righteous.. I'm merely reflecting my issues with my boyfriend who happens to be an arab-muslim, and whenever I point out something he does wrong- he and his friends attribute it to the "norm" of their society.
Im not going to be played the race card against. I am always open to anyone, I just know for certain some races are going to take more time to get along with than others because of the societal differences. Of all the arabic men I have met, they share the same tolerance of infedilities. This by no way means they are all that way.. Just the ones I have met, I would love nothing more than to bridge such rich cultures and form a lasting relationship with an arabic man, and as I have extended my tolerance it is NOT unfair that he extend his.

[Eros101]

And by the way, yes my partner has issues, Ive given my best to help him in everyway possible.. I dont see that as acceptable reasoning for his views. If anything he should be greatful that I would risk everything for him instead of treating me like I'm not worthy and projecting his moral frames unto me.

[ButtyBoy]

... but to say "I don't recommend a serious relationship with an arab just hot sex" really is quite insulting

It's probable just as insulting as the things I have been told by Arab guys: 'I'm not going to tell you my real name, Arab guys never say their real names to gays' and 'I only come by at your house in the middle of the night when everyone else is sleeping because I don't want anyone to find out that I am seeing you' and 'I would rather kill myself than to admit to anyone that I am seeing you' and 'When you run into me somewhere in the streets don't even greet me or look at me' etcetera etcetera. Off course there are always exceptions but generally the fear of Arab guys (in my area) makes them say those things. Is it insulting to me? Yes it is. Do I understand those guys? Yes I do. To me the main thing is honesty. As long as someone is honest and talks about things it doesn't have to be a problem. I should add that the guys I date are never gay (which is a story of it's own..).

[serieusboy]

i didn't liek what you said about arabs " you said that arabs just fuck and forget "

arabs are not same you find many kinds of arab gays "who is looking for love who is looking for just sex who is looking for sex and somthing eles " so well it's same as non-arab all same you find good any wher and bad any wher so i hop you'll change your thoughts

and thank you

[bigboth]

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any one have cut cock.

[ButtyBoy]

A cut cock? :omg_smile:

I hope it's just the foreskin that is cut eheheh

[iflexs08]

wowowowow this is getting out of hand. i think what we are saying here is in general terms. its true no country has the monopoly for its citizenry to use sex as a tool in their life. its just so happen that most of the time a rich people from western country see it in different perspective and the poor one see it the other way around. even arabs have been doing the same thing. i am from gulf and i see them use their affluent life to seduce poorer women. i am talking about male and female relationship. but basically there is no difference whether its a male to male or male to female.

[top_king]

ok my friend i can clear it for u in Arab countries is not that easy to get boyfriend in a gay relationship but there is allot of couples i know

ok lets talk about me i was having a boyfriend he was non Arab and we were enjoying the time together but now he returned back to his country.
he is calling me from time to time and sending me messages
so for the time been i dont have boyfriend and i missed him mmmmmm he was a great bottom thats all for now
and by the way its nice to meet u bonbonboi and all the others

[htfrank30]

hi i'm a latino 30yr bottom very cute and attractive, nice body. Anyway i never had a Arab boyfriend so i maybe this thread does not apply to me, but i would love to meet and Arab or middleaster man "top" for friendship maybe more. So if anybody has a friend an Arab or middleastern man in Los Angeles, CA ask him to leave me a message here at Arab-Gay.com. I'm a very kind, compassionate, loving, generous, outgoing and funny guy, i have alot of love to give to the right man.:smile:

[bistallion]

Hello cute latino,
you know that you make all the non-arabs in this forum very jealous about the arab that you will meet in the future????:smile:

[top_king]

Hello cute latino,
you know that you make all the non-arabs in this forum very jealous about the arab that you will meet in the future????:smile:

not be jealous my friend come to my country and i will be at ur service as top if u like that

[heinfellner]

Is there any arabian guy in Brazil? I am lloking 4 someone

[cuteboy22]

I've approached some Arab men and some Indian men who I know for sure are Gay, but I find many are very secretive about thier lifestyle.

[cuteboy22]

thaaaaaaaaaaanks

[top_king]

let me give a strong hand my friend looool
i wish to be ur friend we are in the same county so let us support each others

[turkishguy]

my boyfriend is a european.

in general i can say that it is difficult for me to adapt to his "modern" points of view.

i dont like his ex boyfriends.

he goes on to be in contact with them.

for him this is very normal, yet for me not.

[1thatseeks]

my boyfriend is a european.

in general i can say that it is difficult for me to adapt to his "modern" points of view.

i dont like his ex boyfriends.

he goes on to be in contact with them.

for him this is very normal, yet for me not.

I'm curious to hear how you met your Boyfriend, turkish guy. I speak as a person with no past relations with arabs. in my area there are not that many and there for little opportunity is to meet mideasterners. i can see what you mean by you worrying about your bf seeing his ex. It can be a bit unnerving. but if you really trust him and know you can, then this feeling will fade. what kind of relationship do you have with him, if may ask? do you see him often or occasionally? this kind of important because it could be apart of whats causing the issue.

the reason why he still see his ex is because either they are good friends because they shared a significant time in each other's lives. i guess you can say there is a special place in his heart for his ex..another reason could be because he is still attached to his ex..

[iflexs08]

i think a boyfriend should not be treated as an object to possess. just like ithatseek says you have to learn to trust your boyfriend. open the communication and tell him how you feel and learn to compromise your stand. dont start a fight that you cant afford to lose. if you love your boyfriend, learn to accept everything. and it should be both ways. he should also respect what you feel and what you want.

[turkishguy]

well... the feelings...

my bf is still living with his ex- for 15 or whatever years- and of course this thing gives me the impression of " most probably they are life mates".

trust and communication in good ways should have been started without that complexity which is very absurd for me.

[ghram555]

hi i am antersted in evry thing

[gaussiemale]

Well, I am a non-Arab and I am looking for an Arab boyfriend. I am just wondering how difficult that is? Do young Arabs like to have western boyfriends? I would appreciate it if some Young Arab could answer that question.
Thanks

[1thatseeks]

well... the feelings...

my bf is still living with his ex- for 15 or whatever years- and of course this thing gives me the impression of " most probably they are life mates".

trust and communication in good ways should have been started without that complexity which is very absurd for me.

wow..i didn't realize he was living with his ex...thats well rather different. To be honest i would nervous too. I can definitely see how that can be problematic.

If his ex is his life mate..then why is he dating you? it seems rather pointless to me..

you are correct trust and communication is good and should have occured in the very beginning. however, were you not aware that he was living with his ex before you started to date? if it were me i would have been to worried about it and probably not have began to date him. when i used to date, my last bf, once in a while it would cross my mind that he could be messing around with others(this would happen when i am at home, away from him) but it doesn't exist when we were together..

I hope the best for you two, but if you can't trust him and you still want a relationship,you should wear a condom. and find away for his pubic skin not to touch yours..disease can be passed that way too.

[1thatseeks]

hi i am antersted in evry thing

what do you like the most?

i'd love to know

[imdead123]

arab here never had a relationship with a non-Arab guy
but I've had relationships with western girls and i can clearly see the emotional differences and culture ones as well even tho im not really into *traditions*

[1thatseeks]

arab here never had a relationship with a non-Arab girl
but I've had relationships with western girls and i can clearly see the emotional differences and culture ones as well even tho im not really into *traditions*

I haven't dated someone outside my culture as of yet...what is the emotional difference? I plan to start going overseas for school, volunteering etc and would like know what kinds of things will be different from dating someone with a similar culture compared to someone with a different culture.

[turkishguy]

however, were you not aware that he was living with his ex before you started to date? .


this is more annoying because my bf did not tell me this when we began. i heard, one night from his ex bf's.

[1thatseeks]

this is more annoying because my bf did not tell me this when we began. i heard, one night from his ex bf's.

then this is a red flag, most likely he is just using your for something you have...i.e. sex , money etc. a relationship is built on trust and communication if he nor you are being honest with one another then there really isn't a relationship but more of an "acceptable" coupling. i think you should serious consider what to do next. i would think its time to move on. He should have told you from day one. what makes it worse is that you had to found out by one of his ex's. simply put...time to move on.

[nasser]

I am interested to hear about experiences of non-arab western men with arabs from arab countries. The background of my question: As a european tourist who visits an arab country I am automatically seen as someone rich and someone who could open the door to europe. So I feel very unsecure if someone of such a country tells me he likes me. I do not want to be too naive and at the same time I do not want to be too suspicious. Any advice? Any experience, may it bad or good?
depens on the country you have visited , there is alot of countries in middle east and they are not the same
take care

[Brightraven]

Well said , Murat! What has always impressed me with the few Arabic lovers I have had, was something as clear as crystal ... their INNATE RESPECT and natural awareness of what love should be! - To put it in a nutshell; I would go as far as saying that the Good, the Bad and the Ugly ... right across the board of Muslim cultures ... are AWARE of God's presence, whether they go to their local mosque or not, no matter. On the contrary, in the West, in the vast majority of cases, the Good the Bad and the Ugly just look on the Church as a place for weddings and funerals and very little else between - apart perhaps from a nostalgic love of a couple of hymns and undoubted admiration for superb choirs. One gets, the impression, looking around the world right now, that most people think they can get away with murder wholesale, while God is looking the other way. What a SHOCK is coming to those people who have the limited vison of snails! - They might be crawling about in the slowness of time, thinking they know it all and can do whatever they like. - Thinking God, THE accountant, who doesn't ACTUALLY miss a farthing, is just flitting about with His pretty butterflies and as such will never catch up with them creeping about on dark, dank nights!
Fuck and forget? - Cum and go? - Unzip, shoot and run? Call it what you like; every fragment of experience marks the MInd indelibly and makes up its tacky programme! Rubbish in, rubbish out. Maybe the time is on us when DELETE should be the operative word!

[lutfi]

OK Murat,you've said what I wanted to say.