Masturbation in Islamic countries

[Silva]

I've been thinking about this a long time.
How does the societies in islamic countries deal with masturbation (and there is difference how man and women masturbations is treated?)?
At least man masturbation seems very common in all societies, so how do muslim countries deal with it? I know islam forbids it unless some circunstancies, but christianism also forbids it and everybody does it.

Imagine a regular arab man that has a son. Does he tolerate that his son masturbates or does not? I mean he surely knows he does, because it is so "man-natured"... but he ignores it? Supports it? or does he think that his son does not masturbate? I'm asking the reaction of the majority.

I'm talking about male masturbation primarly because it is more widely accepted than women's.

Another situation: it is normal that in some conversation with friends some man says he masturbates (to another man, I believe it is harder having this conversation with a women unless there is sex involved with her)? Will his friends condemn it, admit also that they masturbate or ignore the information? I mean friends, not strange people.

I think people that live or that lived in islamic countries can provide some help here.

[RobDen]

I have an Arabic partner and he masturbates and enjoys it and has never felt guilty about it. He is OUT to his very close male friends and they accept him and also sometimes have conversations with him about gays. Masturbation for Islamic men is pretty much the same as it is for the rest of us, it is hidden and not talked about openly but it does occur and more than we think or imagine.:)

[ggrocco43]

I have caught many times the Arab boys jacking off in the stairwell in my apartment building. Now it is almost a game for them to show off to me when they cum! I would never touch them rather have their fathers riding me!

[rsantera]

i guess its very common. some muslims think its okay and some do not. but i don't know anyone who doesn't do it.

[coolmars_lds]

i guess its still the same with us non arab, brcause i have afriend whos arab and he loves to mastubates in front of me... and he even tell to his friends about it...

[Silva]

Yes, I think it is common, because I cannot imagine a man that does not masturbate. My question is if they do have any tabus about, for example, discussing it with friends, or father to son conversation. But I would like also to know if they behave differently in their arabs countries and in the western world countries.

[imposteur]

i dont think there is anything wrong with it

[marky2143]

Muslims think it's horribly wrong, and apparently there are negative side effects to it, which is just stupid.

[tdic6070]

I think it is such a common act with men from all parts of the world and should not be ut down all guys do it it's now just a part of life i don't know any guy who doesn't maserbate this includes many of my arab friends and like "coolmars ids" some of my arab friends actually get really turned on when i watch them masterbate to the point where they say they blow a bigger load with me watching!

[saltyshakes]

The most well known biblical reference often equated with masturbation features Onan who, rather than following 'God's command', 'allowed his seed to fall to the ground', rather than impregnating his dead brother's wife, so is 'smited'. Some scholars reckon the sin was in not following the custom of taking his brother's widow as his wife, rather than wanking per se. However, some Arab guys are loathe to allow their spunk to hit the ground [preferring to come internally] & some ritually wipe the last drip after peeing outside on a stone - perhaps connected to this?

Generally, however, I would agree there are a similar mix of attitudes as there are in Europe.

[Silva]

And about Onan's I think there is another controversial suggestion that he was not masturbating but actually did a coitus interruptus. If this is true, nothing is said in Onan's story about masturbation.

This also makes me curious: I think all men masturbate, now and ever. Why there is so few "descriptions" of it been done in recent times (~2000 years back)? I mean, look at medieval times, there are almost no references of it (of course religious ideas had some influence here, but c'mon, it is sooo common it was impossible to ignore I think).

[saltyshakes]

Yes, I'd forgotten - you're quite right - it may have been his unwillingness to follow 'God's command' & produce a child that constituted his 'sin'. Just goes to show that there is so much that's open to interpretation & that there are many that have used scriptural references to support their own agendas & prejudices eg Sodom etc

[spider]

It's a common use for all the male in the world, i think so.

[don2wash]

I have caught many times the Arab boys jacking off in the stairwell in my apartment building. Now it is almost a game for them to show off to me when they cum! I would never touch them rather have their fathers riding me!


You watch them ejaculate?

Is it one at a time? or 2 or 3 together?

[mrsmirnov]

I'm from Turkey, in this countr some radikal muslims, care about sex more than liberal people..

[Silva]

I'm from Turkey, in this countr some radikal muslims, care about sex more than liberal people..

But for example how most turkish view masturbation? As a natural thing or more like something to be avoided? For example, do you talk with your friends about it in a "good way" (i.e. you accept you masturbate and it is something natural, etc) or do you talk about it like a "sin" (i.e. you say you don't do it because it's bad)?

[habeebkam]

Many ignorant people (Arabs or not) think that masturbation means that you don't have enough sex with a partner. So many keep it a secret (which everyone knows ... lol). However Arabs are no different from the rest of the world even though some of them think they are extra special and nearly all men jack off when they can. (For me Arabs are special because I get a hard-on everytime I see the word Arab ... mmm)

[yahoo270]

I believe that there is nothin wrong with it.....

[cubanbach]

God gave us our bodies to enjoy them.

[lotsa]

I met a guy about two months ago here, he is a Barista in a coffee shop, we get on quite well but nothing has happened (yet). He has a girlfriend but hasn't had sex yet, so jerks off lots, so he tells me. I asked him if guys of his age (19) and younger jerk off much... initially I was surprised by his answer, but he said that porno CD's, internet etc "saves them"! He also told me that he and a few of his friends regularly jerk off together watching CD's etc - they don't have a problem with it, but he did say that previous generations always did secretly and alone. Practices change over time and I guess this is a good example of it.

[phoenixtr]

In Turkey, masturbation is very common I guess and not considered as a sin at all. I know because I am from Turkey:) Generally men prefer doing it alone but I also heard of men jerking off while watching "heterosexual" porn video. I think it's more comfortable issue among gay men cause I had once masturbated with a friend watching porn and after a while he prefered to suck me without moving his eyes from the screen:) That was strange:P... but fun.

[jack]

In Turkey, masturbation is very common I guess and not considered as a sin at all. I know because I am from Turkey:) Generally men prefer doing it alone but I also heard of men jerking off while watching "heterosexual" porn video. I think it's more comfortable issue among gay men cause I had once masturbated with a friend watching porn and after a while he prefered to suck me without moving his eyes from the screen:) That was strange:P... but fun.

woooooooooow that very good subjet im from kuwait iwould like to try masturbat with other gay men achually im masturbaiting while im reading the massege

[missmi]

i guess its very common

[lotsa]

mutual masturbation often comes about because of curiosity? I think so in a lot of cases, esp when younger in the mid to late teens.

[Brett.Bryan]

Once while in Cairo I went to cinema in the Saida Zeneb district. After watching Beastmaster for about an hour, I went to the rest room and saw that each urinal had a man masturbating. They were not watching each other. I did watch them and one spot opened. I moved forward. The man on my right noticed my interest. He took my hand and put it on his cock. I just touched him and he shot ropes of cum all over the urinal. I ended up masturbating about ten men that afternoon in about 15 minutes. When I went back into the theater, I sat one seat in from the aisle. Within a few minutes a teenager sat beside me. In less than a minute, he unzipped and pulled out a very hard thick cock. I reached over and jacked him off. That afternoon I learned that a lot of Egyptians go to the cinema to get their rocks off. I made several trips to that cinema over the time I was in Cairo.

[cubanbach]

Brett I loved that story...I remember I went with my then-lover to a cinema in Florence, Italy and there were guys all lined up along the wall looking into the darkness at the guys and who they would want - when they were picked because he looked at them and they stared back - the guy standing would walk to the back exit where there were curtains and the guy seated would go back to see him and do whatever. I went back there to be curious and that exit vestibule was filled with about 8 guys and then i found out that the bathrooms were there and i went inside and I could smell the cum all over the floors. My lover was boring so he just sat all the time...he was no fun! ;)

[bistallion]

I also experienced cinemas as places of hot and horny fun ... I always explore cinemas in foreign cities or foreign countries if I can hope that some action takes place. My special hunting objects are straight men in porn cinemas! Hmmm I gave many hot men a blow job!
It also turns me on to listen to storys about boys and men wanking together with or without watching films.
But why not repeat such hot experiences today? The internet gives us quite new possibilities. I invite you to watch with me porn clips online, to "phone" together using a messenger and to share the pleasure of masturbating. I can tell you: another excited voice can be very thrilling!
If you are interested mail me please.

[timo0]

Its only at the seedier sinemas in Egypt that you have such masturbation frenzies. I have lived in Egypt for 7 years but have not experienced that myself before.

Male masturbation is exteremely common in the Islamic world. Only the most religious and devout, do not masturbate.

[Brett.Bryan]

This was a cinema about two blocks from Saida Zenab's Mosque. It was definitely seedy. I was to meet a friend in Saida Zenab, but he was tied up at work and I had about ninety minutes to kill. I thought I would just watch Beast Master, I didn't know that I was stumbling into a den of iniquity. (Much to my delight.)

[timo0]

I think I should definitely go there and try it out though I doubt Ramadan is the time for that...It would be very interesting to experience people being very comfortable with having sexual encounters with men in a country like Egypt!

[scoreggia]

i imagine that all do

[darren]

All this talk of masturbation turns me on. I love to watch men masturbating and watching a group of Arab men mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm heaven

[sex god]

i love masturbation and the islamic religion hate the fact that u can please ur self

[Rednake]

I'm already masturbated in group of 4 arab mens , it was so good!

[minibee]

i thinks nothing wrong with the men who's wanking becoz it's natural things that evey men always do

[temis]

wanking oneself is the best way to know his own body !

[PabloP]

Masturbation is an act of sexual self release. A need that all men experience. The majority of males do it at any given point in their lives. Granted some look upon it as a sin, regardless of what their religious backgrounds. Yet they still do it, maybe with remorse.

Arab men, like any other men on this earth, do it.

[Silva]

Thank you all for the answers. Of course I knew arab men masturbated, but I didn't know how was it perceived by the society (or a part of it) or by other men. I see it is like in western countries: most of the "national"/"official"/"religious" society see it as a negative thing (of course people's opinion may be different) but it is accepted by many people as natural and/or positive.

So let me see:
-Men seem to accept it and talk about it (at least with other men. I also find much easier to have a conversation with another man about male masturbation that with a woman. Men understand each other about sex: they do the same things, they think the same things, they want the same things... it's natural. Men may hesitate to talk about this with women because what they say may offend the woman but we know the same thing won't offend another man at all)
The Oman's example is a perfect example of this: a man said that he masturbated, and in a group. But I don't think he would say this so easily to a woman...

I have another question I still want to know the answer: how fathers react to a son's masturbation? With another men they seem to have no problem at all to talk about it, what about with their sons? Harder to answer I know... Of course I know some will accept it naturally and some will not like it... what I want to know is what most of the men think? Your experiences may help again (arab fathers in this forum, hello!! lol).

Of course you are free to post anything about arab male masturbation in this thread!!

Well, this turned out to be a popular thread (natural as male masturbation is so common...). Keep the comments flow!! And thanks for the answers, your experiencies were very helpful.

[lebanise]

hi

firstly i have to commnet about few replies posted by other members, religion got nothing to do with who u are.
islam or any other religion forbids wanking. but still no one gives a fuck we all do it. its natural.

i am a proud muslim and a proud gay (not openly) lol. but still. its my decision to be gay.

my father and i talked about masterbation since i was 12.
he knew i was wanking and he told me its normal.
he explained to me almost everything about sex.

maybe thats why im gay, lol.

not sure my reply would be any good to any one but its my opinion
laterz

[europeanboy3]

that was hot...wanna be there...

Once while in Cairo I went to cinema in the Saida Zeneb district. After watching Beastmaster for about an hour, I went to the rest room and saw that each urinal had a man masturbating. They were not watching each other. I did watch them and one spot opened. I moved forward. The man on my right noticed my interest. He took my hand and put it on his cock. I just touched him and he shot ropes of cum all over the urinal. I ended up masturbating about ten men that afternoon in about 15 minutes. When I went back into the theater, I sat one seat in from the aisle. Within a few minutes a teenager sat beside me. In less than a minute, he unzipped and pulled out a very hard thick cock. I reached over and jacked him off. That afternoon I learned that a lot of Egyptians go to the cinema to get their rocks off. I made several trips to that cinema over the time I was in Cairo.

[europeanboy3]

What i think, all or MOST guys masturbate...Once I asked my friend by email if he amasturbate, he said ~OF course Not!....I was really wonder if he said true.:)

[lebanon87]

whats the big deal its better then doing something we would regret

[ce83]

I have a straight arab guy living with me, and he has never masturbated in front of me, I wonder if he does though. And it would be awesome if he did it in front of my presence.

[jack]

hi to all hey im a vergin ido masturbait alot, cause inever been with somein bed ,so imasturbait better than nothin

[suhra]

l heard that it is not forbidden in islamic world, not sure though.....

[agigay]

most of men's wanking , but not evry one i have a friend (he is hetero) and he never wanking himself , and he have now 24 . he waiting with sex to weding .

[italianshirt]

masturbation is a taboo all over the world. in western countries, dads don't talk about it with their sons either!