wind of change in the arab world

[bistallion]

After some time I looked today again into the forum. I am astonished that nobody posted comments to the political changes in the arab world: tunisia, egypt... demonstrations in bahrain, algeria and libya .... How do you think about that all? Expectations and hopes? Fears?

[eradesso]

hey bistallion, long time!
i'm not sure if you've read my last post where i say it's been almost 3 months since i've been living in Cairo with my (Egyptian) boyfriend...
I perfectly remember being on the couch with him watching the news reporting of the Tunisian turmoil... and I remember him saying "you will see now, hell will finally break loose in Egypt too" and so it did.

Funny enough, I had already booked back in december a flight to get back to Italy for a week to pick up my last things right on January 25th which was the first day of the Egyptian revolution. I had planned to stay in Italy for one week.

My boyfriend was one of the many ADMIRABLE Egyptians who camped in Tahrir Square to get that dictator off his chair.
How was I feeling? HORRIBLE, SCARED TO DEATH but OPTIMISTIC.
Why was I so scared? You all saw on the news what that disgusting man and his gang were capable of... freeing thugs from jails to kill people and pretend to be revolutionaries so they would appear as violent people to the eyes of the world..Police dressed in civilian clothes breaking into the Museum destroying their own art and history.. etc

They cut the internet and phone lines... for 48 hours I wasn't able to talk with my bf and I admit I had to get some Xanax because reading of all the dead and arrested people had me scared for the worst.
When I finally talked with my bf he begged me not to go back as it would be too dangerous for me.
I postponed my returned 3 days later then I hid myself with my bf at a hotel near the airport and we escaped to Thailand for 2 weeks which was long enough for Mubarak to get away and things to quiet down.

Upon returning my bf again asked me to spend some time in Italy to let things settle some more.. I spent another week here and tomorrow morning I will catch a flight back to Cairo.

Anyway, I do believe in the power of people and I do believe they will all achieve their reasonable expectations.
Unfortunately what I also know is that it will take A LOT of time to clear the systems from the old folks and old habits.

We cannot compare situations from Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco or Yemen with situations in Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.

In these 2 Kingdoms change COULD be very easy and quick because
1) they are packed with money
2) there is only one big boss
3) the change that is expected isn't sooooo huge

What makes change in these two kingdoms more difficult, unlike all other countries, is.... RELIGION.

Bahrain is torn between the Shia majority of people and a SUNNI royal family.. go figure!
Saudi Arabia well, you know it, it's as fake as Las Vegas. They got the Medina and the Mecca so they must PRETEND to be the most perfectly religious country of the entire world.... and how do they do that? By controlling people with repression and violence (Religious Police)...
Yet, all of this does not apply to the 10.000 members of the Royal Family...
But hey.. King Abdallah put up some 400 billion euros for financial aids...

Only time will tell... but change was never easy nor quick even in Europe or North America... take a look at South America even... they have no dictators (minus one or two) and no religious fanatism... yet... corruption and poverty are everywhere!




After some time I looked today again into the forum. I am astonished that nobody posted comments to the political changes in the arab world: tunisia, egypt... demonstrations in bahrain, algeria and libya .... How do you think about that all? Expectations and hopes? Fears?

[FatPapiNY]

thank you eradesso for that report you gave. I was rivited to my television watching some on the news. now I have a better idea of the goings on that even the new people hadn't grasped. thanks again! Good luck in your journey.

[bistallion]

Thank you eradesso for your interesting personal report!
To be honest: I started this thread because I feared a bit that this forum could be peopled by sex maniacs who are only interested in cocks and not in human beings (and politics). And that would have been very disappointing for me!
So now I know better due to eradesso, who obviously is not only a horny slut but also a human being with heart and brain.
Eradesso, good luck to you and your friend!


What I asked me also when I was watching programmes about the revoluationary mood in egypt and tunisia: Will gays feel more free and safe in these countries in the future? Although sex beween men was often practised in egypt and tunisia there was always a bit of a risk to get into problems. I hope that the fight of the tunisians and egypts for more personal freedom includes also the fight for more sexual freedom.

[arzika]

hey bistallion, long time!
i'm not sure if you've read my last post where i say it's been almost 3 months since i've been living in Cairo with my (Egyptian) boyfriend...
I perfectly remember being on the couch with him watching the news reporting of the Tunisian turmoil... and I remember him saying "you will see now, hell will finally break loose in Egypt too" and so it did.

Funny enough, I had already booked back in december a flight to get back to Italy for a week to pick up my last things right on January 25th which was the first day of the Egyptian revolution. I had planned to stay in Italy for one week.

My boyfriend was one of the many ADMIRABLE Egyptians who camped in Tahrir Square to get that dictator off his chair.
How was I feeling? HORRIBLE, SCARED TO DEATH but OPTIMISTIC.
Why was I so scared? You all saw on the news what that disgusting man and his gang were capable of... freeing thugs from jails to kill people and pretend to be revolutionaries so they would appear as violent people to the eyes of the world..Police dressed in civilian clothes breaking into the Museum destroying their own art and history.. etc

They cut the internet and phone lines... for 48 hours I wasn't able to talk with my bf and I admit I had to get some Xanax because reading of all the dead and arrested people had me scared for the worst.
When I finally talked with my bf he begged me not to go back as it would be too dangerous for me.
I postponed my returned 3 days later then I hid myself with my bf at a hotel near the airport and we escaped to Thailand for 2 weeks which was long enough for Mubarak to get away and things to quiet down.

Upon returning my bf again asked me to spend some time in Italy to let things settle some more.. I spent another week here and tomorrow morning I will catch a flight back to Cairo.

Anyway, I do believe in the power of people and I do believe they will all achieve their reasonable expectations.
Unfortunately what I also know is that it will take A LOT of time to clear the systems from the old folks and old habits.

We cannot compare situations from Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco or Yemen with situations in Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.

In these 2 Kingdoms change COULD be very easy and quick because
1) they are packed with money
2) there is only one big boss
3) the change that is expected isn't sooooo huge

What makes change in these two kingdoms more difficult, unlike all other countries, is.... RELIGION.

Bahrain is torn between the Shia majority of people and a SUNNI royal family.. go figure!
Saudi Arabia well, you know it, it's as fake as Las Vegas. They got the Medina and the Mecca so they must PRETEND to be the most perfectly religious country of the entire world.... and how do they do that? By controlling people with repression and violence (Religious Police)...
Yet, all of this does not apply to the 10.000 members of the Royal Family...
But hey.. King Abdallah put up some 400 billion euros for financial aids...

Only time will tell... but change was never easy nor quick even in Europe or North America... take a look at South America even... they have no dictators (minus one or two) and no religious fanatism... yet... corruption and poverty are everywhere!

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